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Patient, Heal Thyself
By DON KEMPER
If you want a better system, support a smarter patient .
For weeks now Congress has been stymied by how to pay for extending coverage to the uninsured. While it may seem stupid to look to the patient for the answer, pumping more money into the current system would be the stupidest idea of all. Helping people to do more for their own health care may be the only thing that saves health care reform.
A lot of recent attention has gone to the medical practice differences between McAllen and El Paso, Texas—with McAllen having twice the costs and use rates of El Paso. But the McAllen/El Paso differences are tiny compared to the difference in costs between and among families—even for those living in the same town or on the same block.
Let me pose the example of two identical families, the Smiths and the Joneses, with the same medical conditions but with different approaches to self-management. How might each family deal with three possibly high-cost episodes of back pain, chest pain and dementia?
The Smiths vs. The Joneses
The Smith family is a “doctor knows best” family that relies on the excellent physicians and hospitals in their community to keep them healthy or return them to health when they aren’t, but do little to participate in the decisions or the care. The Smiths accept whatever treatments their physicians recommend.
The Jones family also relies on the physicians and hospitals in their community. But they use health care decision tools and self-management information in combination with their doctors’ advice to make sure they’re getting the best treatment for them.
When Sam Smith’s back pain flared at age 45, he was quick to accept his doctor’s recommendation for an MRI and a visit to an orthopedic specialist to make sure it wasn’t serious. The MRI showed a possible cause of the pain and (just to be sure) Sam had surgery the following week, marveling at the efficiency of the system. The cost: about $40,000 for surgery, hospital, physician care and rehab.
When Jay Jones, also age 45, had an identical bout of back pain he reviewed a back surgery decision aid on the Web—even before his first visit. He learned that back surgery is not usually needed or always successful. For him the case for surgery was not very strong.
When his doctor recommended an MRI, Jay pointed out that a decision aid helped him learn that 50 percent of back pain cases go away in four weeks, 90 percent in six months, and only 10 percent of back pain cases need surgery. Jay also learned that MRI reports often find things that can lead to surgery even though they were not the cause of the pain. With that information he asked if he might put off the MRI and the surgery while he determined if his back would get better on its own—it did. The cost: $150 for the office call and $12 for the over-the-counter medications. Back surgery is among the most overprescribed treatments.
When Sam’s wife Susan, felt some chest pain after an argument with him, she went right to the ER. While the pain went away quickly, Susan accepted the recommended EKG (just to be sure). And although she had no family history of heart disease, (just to be sure) she was also given a stress test, an echocardiogram, a mobile Holter monitor and a cardiac catheterization. She was happy to agree to anything that the doctors thought might show something. The cost was staggering—but the insurance paid most of it.
When Jay’s wife, Janice, felt similar chest pain she made a quick check with an on-line symptom guide. She self-assessed that she was not sweating, had no shortness of breath, she wasn’t vomiting or nauseous, the pain was fairly stationary and her heartbeat was steady at her normal 64 beats per minute. She also surmised that the pain could have been caused by a session yesterday on a new exercise machine at the gym. After confirming by phone with her doctor she decided to do watchful waiting to see if the pain went away—it did. The cost: $25 for the phone call to her doctor. As a bonus, her alertness to the possibility of heart pain caused Janice to renew her commitment to exercise and healthy eating.
When Grandfather Smith (Sam’s dad) and Granddad Jones (Jay’s dad) each progressed into advanced frailty with dementia, the pattern continued with the Smiths opting for a full medical response in their “at-all-costs” battle against death and the Jones opting for an approach which maximized family support and caring over treatment. The Smith to Jones cost difference was astounding.
The story could go on and on. If self-activated people like the Joneses are given good self-care, disease self-management and decision-support tools, they will use them effectively to avoid the overtreatment and under-caring so prominent in today’s health care system. But, how do we get more of the Smith families to step up to the same tools and philosophy as the Jones? I recommend a two-part solution: ”Supporting the Jones” and “Motivating the Smiths”.
Supporting the Joneses
Job 1 is to help the Joneses succeed in their efforts by giving them evidence-based, easy –to-use decision aids and self-management guides to implement three basic rules:
- The Self-Care Rule: Help people do as much for themselves as they possibly can. With the right tools we have become our own travel agents, bankers and investment counselors. We create our own Websites and edit our own movies. Rule #1 would bring that same innovation to health care.
- The Guidelines Rule: Help people ask for the care they need. Too often in health care there is a gap between what we know works and what we do. On average, people with chronic disease get only about half of the care they should. Conversely, we are often suggested expensive and invasive treatments when simpler treatments do just as well or even better. By giving patients easy-to-read versions of the same medical guidelines their doctors use, they can ask for and get the care they need.
- The Patient Choice Rule: Help people say “no” to recommended care that is not likely to improve their lives. With the benefit of good information people should be able to decline duplicative or overly expensive testing, unnecessary drugs or surgeries not likely to make a positive difference in their lives—particularly in the last years of life.
All three rules can be implemented quickly and effectively by implementing patient facing “meaningful use” requirements for electronic medical records and by expanding MyMedicare.gov into a virtual health home.
Motivating the Smiths
The second task is to motivate the Smiths to become more engaged in their own healthcare by offering economic and structural incentives to them and to those who serve them.
- Reduce co-pays for services that prevent complications.
- Reduce co-pays or premiums for people who use patient decision aids.
- Provide rewards when people obtain and maintain wellness goals
Clearly health care reform must include improving the provider side through EMRs, transparency, and payment reform to improve care coordination, reduce errors and hold down overtreatment. But without help from a better informed, more engaged patient that will not be enough. By giving each of us the right tools, the right incentives and the right accountability we can do much to heal ourselves and to create a new, patient-centered health care system that is affordable, high quality and better for our health.
Don Kemper is the CEO of Healthwise.
More on health care and technology:
- Meaningful Use vs. Meaningless Adoption of Electronic Health Records
- Bringing Patients into the Health IT Conversation about "Meaningful Use"
- What is the Physician's Role in a Web-based World?
July 23, 2009 in Costs, Electronic Medical Records, Health 2.0, Technology | Permalink
Comments
YES YES YES!!
Don -- you are so right. This is the work I've tried to do for several years now -- to have patients understand that when they are more engaged, they will get better care AND will function better in a reformed health system.
Thanks for your great comparison. Now let's ALL work together to help patients get to that educated and informed place.
Posted by: Trisha Torrey | Jul 23, 2009 6:18:24 AM
Isn't it asking a lot for patients to make these quality of care and best practice decisions?
Shouldn't the health care system prevent the doctors from performing unnecessary tests and procedures?
Most patients do what their doctors recommend. They are 'good' patients. I think the problem is bad doctors motivated by greed. Shouldn't the health care system reinforce 'good' decisions by doctors and discourage 'greedy' decisions?
Posted by: MarkS | Jul 23, 2009 6:45:26 AM
I so agree with this assessment. I would only add that in support of the Jones - that being able to speak directly to the physician in a timely manner lends great support to their model. You point out that Janice was able to confirm via phone call with her physician that watchful waiting was an appropriate response to her symptoms. Without a timely response, surely she would need to go to the ER to ensure that the symptoms were not more serious.
Too often these days (and for legitimate reasons often cited in other articles in the Medical Blogosphere) physicians do not return phone calls quickly, if at all - and responses are often from untrained office staff - I include "Medical Assistants" (the new way for doctors to save money - not even a nurse on staff) in this pool - they are not trained to assess medical conditions and their urgency and I would not trust the assessment of a medical asst. if s/he provided one. I suspect that the response from such a person would be "Go to the emergency room. The doctor cannot see you or speak to you now or in the immediate future. Our first available appointment is in 6 weeks."
Posted by: ARB | Jul 23, 2009 7:26:38 AM
You forgot the biggest point - GET THE DOCTOR TO ACT ETHICALLY AND USE ONLY MEDICALLY NECESSARY PROCEDURES.
Posted by: Peter | Jul 23, 2009 7:36:17 AM
I know MD as HELL will say this is all due to fear of lawsuits and I'm sure that has something to do with it, but shouldn't it be the responsibility of a DOCTOR to note that she was not sweating, had no shortness of breath, wasn’t vomiting or nauseous, the pain was fairly stationary and her heartbeat was steady at her normal 64 beats per minute, then ask about recent excercise routine changes and family history, and then not order an EKG (just to be sure), a stress test, an echocardiogram, a mobile Holter monitor and a cardiac catheterization?
I don't think starting a web search is the first thing I'd do while experiencing "unexpected" or unusual chest pain. Sorry. If patients can educate themselves on the web, how much better can they be educated by doctors (which is the Latin word for "teachers", by the way) or nurse educators (or non-nurse educators, for that matter)?
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Posted by: Tom Leith | Jul 23, 2009 7:36:44 AM
There are several issues raised in this piece.
Starting from the bottom, the recommendations make less sense than you might think.
Reduce co-pays for services that prevent complications.
This assumes more patient sophistication than I think anyone should assume. Financial incentives should be used to get people to buy the right kind of insurance. Using financial incentives for patients at the clinic seems very unlikely to work.
Reduce co-pays or premiums for people who use patient decision aids.
So how are you going to keep them honest? Physicians always will help patients claim they've done things that will get the insurer to pay the bill. Unworkable.
Provide rewards when people obtain and maintain wellness goals.
You need to read "Younger next year," and, more importantly for the writer and so called wellness experts, read "The end of overeating, taking control of the insatiable American appetite," by David A. Kessler, M.D., former head of the FDA. He's been fighting the bulge his whole life and has written the equivalent of a Ph.D. thesis on nutrition and behavioral psychology. Bottom line, people reach wellness goals and fall off the wagon on and off our whole lives. You can't peg financial incentives to things that really are beyond anyone's personal control. Some are lucky and have no eating or other lifestyle problems. Others are born unlucky.
So you're going to reward the lucky and punish the unlucky? Only the lucky think that's a good idea.
Now, we also have to look at the personalities of the two families. Some people are lucky enough to be educated. That helps a lot in decision making. But being educated doesn't make one assertive and decisive. There are plenty of very educated people, including the chair of the Republican National Committee, who don't know who insures them and are too busy and disinterested to find out until it's too late.
And then there are the uneducated. The 50% of the population who didn't learn anything in high school even if they graduated. The 70% to 75% who don't have college educations. These are the non learners. They've been thrown under the bus by an education system created by the same politicians promising to fix health care.
You expect these people to be analytical? You expect them to debate physicians and nurses? You expect them to earn lower co-pays by taking on the medical establishment?
Years ago I saw a survey by Kaiser, I think, that showed 37% of patients participate in clinical decision making. Don't know how accurate it was, but it gives you some idea about the scope of the problem.
And it shows you can't generalize about fixes for health care.
Posted by: Donald E. L. Johnson | Jul 23, 2009 7:57:25 AM
In my area of the country most patients put their medical provider on a pedestal. Many are intimidated as they view themselves as uneducated and may appear stupid or untrusting when asking a question to the provider who they consider an expert. They also fear any questions may hurt the patient provider relationship. For 30 years I worked in health care on the clinical side and administrative side. When talking with patients if I detected they were uneasy or unsure I strongly encouraged them to be open with the provider. Too many patients or their family felt it would insult the provider to even ask more questions, discuss options or seek a second opinion. I would always remind them the provider wanted what was best for them and they were the “boss”. Many medical facilities have been forced to practice assembly line and cookbook medicine. With the collection rate so low because of nonpaying patients they have to see more patients and do not always have the time they would like to get to know their patients. More medical schools are stressing “bedside manner” but with the large volume of patients they need to see to cover overhead it is not easy to practice. You mentioned more self-help and I agree but in many areas the resources needed are not available. There needs to be more people to volunteer to be patient advocates.
Posted by: Treva | Jul 23, 2009 8:05:30 AM
Let's see which family's doctor has the higher status and income: The winner is the Smith's. That doctor is well respected because he refers patients to specialists. He or the specialist may also own the MRI. The specialist owns the ASC where Mr. Smith had surgery.
Mr. Jones physician is overworked and spends a lot of time returning phone calls for $25 vs. $150 for the office visit. Mr. Jones back problem eventually resolves itself after 3 to 4 weeks maybe longer.
Oh yes now both Mr. Jones and Mr. Smith have significant pre-existing conditions. When they lose their jobs and have to go to the private insurance market for a health insurance policy...surprise they discover they must purchase expensive insurance from their state's high risk pool. They choose to be uninsured, preferring to pay the utility and mortgage payments first. Now neither can get to see a specialists because the specialists don't see the uninsured without a significant upfront out of pocket payment.
But they all live happily ever after....in the land of healthcare make believe. This message is sponsored by the healthcare fairy godmother association.
Posted by: Lynn | Jul 23, 2009 8:19:44 AM
Hmmm. Didnt the Internet have a lot of information on ARMs, mortgage payments, etc.
Coda: Jones and Smith family missed their doc appontments. They were in bankruptcy court.
Get it.
Posted by: Anon | Jul 23, 2009 9:40:45 AM
“Shouldn't the health care system prevent the doctors from performing unnecessary tests and procedures?”
Yes MarkS and traffic laws should prevent people from speeding, and Tax laws should make people pay their taxes, and health guidelines should make people eat healthy and exercise. You can’t regulate perfection; people must have a personal vested interest in doing the right thing and in healthcare that means the patient being responsible. It will never work any other way.
“Most patients do what their doctors recommend. They are 'good' patients.”
No they are not that is a terrible patient. Are you a good client of your mechanic? Are you a good patron of your local restaurant? Do you listen to them without question. A good patient comes to the doctor informed and educated seeking advise that they will consider along with advise from other sources to make educated decisions. Not someone that shows up like a sheep.
“Physicians always will help patients claim they've done things that will get the insurer to pay the bill. Unworkable.”
Require they log in to the website and go through a diagnosis tree. Require call to nurse line. Easy to do and is only limited by federal laws like HIPAA and ADA.
“Some people are lucky enough to be educated.”
No one in America is lucky to be educated. Everyone had the opportunity, to many CHOOSE not to take it.
“You expect them to earn lower co-pays by taking on the medical establishment?”
They have done a great job surgically attaching their hand to my back pocket, if they can rally for tax credits, welfare, food stamps, etc etc let them rally for lower co-pays. I’m sure ACORN can establish some educational community programs for only a few billion more of my tax dollars.
“This message is sponsored by the healthcare fairy godmother association.”
Who wants to destroy the best healthcare in the world enjoyed by over 80% of it’s participants so we all suffer equally with the rare exception Lynn believes is the norm. There are easier ways to fix the 1 in 340 million case you outline Lynn then destroying the 339.9 million cases that work exceptionally well.
Posted by: Nate | Jul 23, 2009 9:42:25 AM
Patients can be informed and take some responsibility for their own health, and still expect their doctor to know best. I didn't go to medical school and don't think I can find the same knowledge I would get from a doctor on some website. No matter how much I read up about a disease or a symptom, I will never have the expertise of a Doctor who has trained for years in their field.
The best way to be informed is to talk to your doctor--you still get to choose how you live and how you are treated. Reading a million travel books and going on some trips might make you as knowledgeable as a travel agent, but reading a few medical books and hanging out in the ER doesn't make you a doctor.
I'm not saying that doctors are infallible--they make mistakes and you have to find one that you trust. But we shouldn't just encourage people to use medical opportunities less (though many people are over-treated.) We also need to encourage doctors to stay honest and efficient--this is their profession and they should know what tests are and aren't necessary.
Posted by: Nil | Jul 23, 2009 10:25:05 AM
Great article. If Americans become more active and engaging with physicians as oppose to just giving all the power over to the physician, health care costs will drop tremendously. More people need to send this article, its simple and true.
Posted by: Phil | Jul 23, 2009 10:34:08 AM
What has happend to medical care in sweden ?
Posted by: micke | Jul 23, 2009 11:19:05 AM
Good stuff -- uses 2 of the 4 best cost-inflation control reforms:
http://findingourdream.blogspot.com/2009/07/reforms-to-control-health-care-cost.html
But unlike my simply describing the best and offering methods, this illustration is good for the narrative quality of a specific example.
Consider making this an Op-Ed in the NYTimes or Washington Post, etc.
Posted by: Hal Horvath | Jul 23, 2009 12:48:03 PM
This is the truth. See Bill Moyers interview former Cigna PR , Wendell Potter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlk3ltydTlY
Posted by: Concerned | Jul 23, 2009 1:11:28 PM
I have often wondered why healthcare seemed to not follow the free market model of competition resulting in lower prices. It was perplexing until I examined the laser eye treatment industry (LASIK). Lasik service started out prohibitively expensive for most people with few providers. The procedure was refined and made more reliable. Interestingly, insurance companies will not pay for the procedure. Suddenly, there were LASIK centers everywhere and the price continues to fall. Why has this not happened with other healthcare? The reason is government intervention. In most other aspects, the government has intervened mandating that insurance companies cover a plethora of procedures from artificial insemination to trans-gender surgery. Like every other actuarial-based system, the majority of the group is used to amortize the cost and abuses of the minority. Couple those regulations with the artificially low stipends that they reimburse providers with for all medical procedures through Medicare/Medicaid/VA and you have identified 50% of the problem. The Feds make insurance provide virtually any care to everyone and then short pay on their government run insurance programs forcing providers to make up the dollars on the privately insured patients. Next, examine the CYA tests prescribed by the medical providers in order to prevent lawsuits. The insurance companies are forced to allow it in order to protect the doctors and themselves from frivolous litigation thereby driving cost higher for everyone. Finally, the public now has no control over costs because other than the uninsured, they are only exposed to insanely low copays and deductibles. Once insured, a consumer has no appreciation of the true cost and therefore tends to over-treat. So we have:
• Government intervention in the form of coverage mandates
• Extensive tests to protect against lawsuits
• Consumers not understanding true costs and limiting their consumption
I tried to find another product that behaved like this and could identify only one – the automobile industry. It proved the basic principles….government intervention in emissions and safety features, mfg’s need to over-engineer for these features fearing litigation, and consumers relatively insulated from the costs based upon easy credit/loans.
Although I do not have a solution for health-care, any real fix must include the following:
• Tort reform by limiting punitive & compensatory damages for specific issues
• Eliminate mandates for insurance coverage (companies offer a variety of plans)
o Catastrophic only (lowest cost but with enhanced benefits)
o Graduated to move patient into direct pay for routine medicine
o Top tier (like we have now) covering everything with copays & deductibles
• Allow consumers to pay a larger portion of their non-emergency healthcare
o Office visits high cost, catastrophic at no cost
Any plan without these fundamentals will necessarily have rising costs over time and be financially unsustainable. Sorry, but those are the hard facts.
Posted by: s | Jul 23, 2009 1:28:36 PM
"If you want a better system, support a smarter patient." Yes, you are absolutely right with this statement.
Posted by: Yeast | Jul 23, 2009 1:36:34 PM
Yes, this is true. The patients need to be educated. Articles that show how to cure yeast infection help a lot in that regards. If more people would read that instead of just buying drugs, the system would be much better.
Posted by: Tom B. Carryright | Jul 23, 2009 1:41:46 PM
"s" clearly starts from his prejudices and works back to supporting arguments.
* The total annual malpractice premium paid by all US doctors amounts to $6.5 billion. That's about 0.3% of the total US healthcare budget -- insignificant! Tort reform can do nothing to decrease overall costs.
* Is "s" under the impression that some meaningful portion of the total healthcare spend goes to artificial insemination? This is merely argument by anecdote, and silly on its face.
* Regarding the idea that everything but catastrophic care should be expensive: "s" would be advised to Google "value based benefits". VBB programs have been extremely successful; they generally involve the creation of incentives for patients to seek beneficial care, not to avoid it. Often, this takes the form of lowered copays. Look up the experience of Safeway Corp., for example.
It is well accepted that the rate of increase in the cost of healthcare will always exceed the ambient rate of inflation. That's because most industrial and consumer products can be made more competitive by reducing production costs; healthcare is a personal service that's not susceptible to automation, and competitive advantage is obtained by increases in capability rather than increased efficiency.
Posted by: AndyS | Jul 23, 2009 2:24:01 PM
My wife is not known for being a shrinking violet and for many years was a nurse at a large hospital. About a year ago she had to see the doctor because he wouldn't renew the prescription for one of her maintenance medications without a routine office visit. Since she is over a certain age he asked about and suggested a colonoscopy. She didn't think she wanted that and asked him more about it. Then she knew she didn't want it. He still strongly suggested one. She then asked one last question. "When was the last colonoscopy you had?" He laughed and said he hadn't ever had one. End of discussion.
Posted by: Mike C | Jul 23, 2009 2:39:03 PM
There is so much wisdom in this post. Healthcare is a partnership, and if patients want to be at the center of that partnership we each need to pull our own weight, real and virtual! Most healthcare determinations have substantial patient and family components entwined in their processes and outcomes.
Recently the NY Times has been trumpeting the hzards of cell phone and texting distractions while driving. This sort of self and social responsibility should be a no-brainer for anyone who has tried to attend to a cell call while driving, but yet most persist in attending to our distractors while engaged in our riskiest of all behaviors (except maybe smoking and some drinking). I want to believe patient involvement is a critical component of controlling healthcare costs, but i wonder if its potential can be recognized in our instant gratification culture.
Posted by: InfoMark | Jul 23, 2009 2:49:10 PM
I think that Anon and Lynn are right to be skeptical. The current system is strongly skewed towards prescribing more - and patients often are uninformed or, in some cases, ill or half informed. On the internet, they may not read about and be fascinated by EBM detailing the advantages of conservative/expectant management of back pain, but about minimal invasive techniques for back surgery, robotic surgery or whatever hightech aspect there is. And yes, the urge to have good looking pics (usually MRIs) is strong and probably a very understandable human desire. If your insurance pays for a pic "to find out what's going on", who wouldn't want to have a look? If you don't want to pay for superfluous imaging, you need
tort reform AND
patient education and/or strong incentives
Andy S, the problem are not so much malpractice premiums, but defensive medicine. Yes, there are health economists who think it's insignificant or doesn't exist, but as soon as you ask physicians (policy wonks or not, progressive or conservative), the overwhelming majority will agree that it is a problem.
Posted by: rbar | Jul 23, 2009 4:58:01 PM
"If you don't want to pay for superfluous imaging, you need tort reform..."
McAllen Texas has tort reform.
Posted by: Peter | Jul 23, 2009 5:31:32 PM
"They have done a great job surgically attaching their hand to my back pocket, if they can rally for tax credits, welfare, food stamps, etc etc let them rally for lower co-pays. I’m sure ACORN can establish some educational community programs for only a few billion more of my tax dollars."
Nate has done a great job of making the case that people like him are better than the rest of us, and, due to their superiority they are educated (while scummy laggards out there choose not to be) and informed (while others are simply, for no good reason, "sheep") who's back pockets are constantly being picked by lazy good-for-nothings who don't deserve healthcare, and, no doubt, can't afford it because they're simply morally inferior.
How much I admire people like Nate - so selfless, so upset that their tax dollars might help someone else instead of, say, going into the pockets of multi-billionaire executives (nature's truly deserving mortals), so benevolently Christian in their outlook, and such advanced representatives of all that is truly American.
It makes me, too, want to destroy evil institutions like ACORN, and rise every day to salute FOX NEWS, CNBC, and the saints on Wall Street, busily stealing from us all, but ever, ever so patriotic. Nate, what a hero you are!
Posted by: PVA | Jul 23, 2009 5:56:53 PM
Peter, my pet peeve again: I don't think that Texas has meaningful tort reform. Unfortunately, the AMA (which I don't like for other policy reasons anyway, and I am not a member) seems to peddle the nonsense that all is needed is a cap on noneconomic damages (i.e. pain and suffering). That cap might help a little, mainly by preventing skyhigh awards, but you still can (and will) be unreasonably sued, and the actual problem with the tort system is:
a lawyer can secondguess a doctor's judgment when there is a poor outcome. And when there is a bad outcome, a lawyer will find a (well paid) expert and very often a jury who will find that outcome was preventable by often very shaky association to a prior medical decision (of course, obvious and egregious negligence does exist, but that's not the point here). This secondguessing is often extremely unfair, and outcome and hindsight bias have been proven in medical litigation (outcome bias: same care/decision in identical scenario is rated worse when poor outcome is given, hindsight bias: diagnosis is perceived as clear and obvious when diagnosis is known to evaluating person, as is the case with malpractice litigation).
Posted by: rbar | Jul 23, 2009 6:39:44 PM
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Posted by: Steve Dill | Jul 23, 2009 8:00:59 PM
So Quality Assurance called me today. I saw a new patient, a 25 year old with sore knees on Monday. I had asked her a bunch of questions, examined her knees, discussed the pathophysiology of patellofemoral syndrome, discussed and demonstrated exercises for anterior thigh strengthening, did a general physical exam and a Pap and pelvic in my alotted half hour. I had also discussed calcium supplements, diet, exercise, gyne cancers, and her family history of DM and DM prevention. I banged all of this data into the EMR, and counseled her about smoking cessation. I used up my 30 minutes and then some although I forgot to ask her about her most recent tetanus vaccine. She filed a complaint with her insurance company. Her complaint? I "hurried" her through the visit and failed to order x-rays for her knees. (I'm not upset though, because one day last week I had four different patients tell me that I was the best doc they'd ever had ... I was waiting for the pendulum to swing back.)
I imagine that the Smiths and the Jones actually would feel somewhat slighted if they don't get an imaging test.
What rbar said, of course. I don't know how much defensive medicine contributes to the cost of medical care in this country, but I know it's not negligible. I don't think that it's coincidental that the VA docs who are noted for their efficiency are also immune to malpractice lawsuits as federal employees.
Posted by: J Bean | Jul 23, 2009 10:06:28 PM
A more likely scenario:
John Smith has chronic, mild asthma, well controlled hypertension, and hypothyroidism. He sees his primary care doc yearly for a "complete physical with yearly blood work", his cardiologist every 3 months to monitor and refill his blood pressure medication with a yearly ECG and yearly lipids (which are the identical to the lipid results from his physical), his primary care doc for a URI and asthma flair about once a year, his pulmonologist every three months to monitor and refill his inhaled steroid, and his endocrinologist to check his TSH and refill his thyroid eveery six months. He is delighted that his insurance allows him access to his "specialists" without requiring referrals for his 12 office visits per year.
Jacques Dupont, on the other hand, lives in a different country. He has the same conditions as Mr. Smith. However, M. Dupont sees his doc, a generalist (they don't have "primary care" in his country) every 3 months or so, gets his lipids, his blood pressure, his TSH, his refills and his various body parts monitored as appropriate at each visit. When his asthma flairs, he calls his regular doc and gets his steroid pack and maybe a chest x-ray. Every year or two, he gets his eyes examined and in 2015, when he has a little chest pain scare, he sees a cardiologist for a time or two. In the average year M. Dupont sees a doctor 5 or 6 times. For some mysterious reason, M. Dupont's 6 visits cost in total half of what Mr. Smith spends on 12 visits. M. Dupont's doctor lives in a very nice appartement in the best arrondissement and has a lovely home in the country, because with respect to his countrymen he is very well paid indeed.
How many times can you refer someone for a cardiac cath or an MRI? Hint: not many. How many times can you refer someone to a specialist for every 3 month monitoring? Hint: how many body parts have you got? Where do you think that money was going in McAllen? My guess was that the care in that small town in Texas more closely resembled what Mr. Smith got in my example than M. Dupont.
Specialist care is a wonderful thing where appropriate, but using specialist care to monitor routine, chronic conditions on an organ system by organ system basis is foolish and wasteful. However, there is a significant portion of the public who views it as "the best care in the world".
Posted by: J Bean | Jul 23, 2009 10:28:06 PM
By rbar:
"I don't think that Texas has meaningful tort reform."
From the article: "The Cost Conundrum"
“It’s malpractice,” a family physician who had practiced here for thirty-three years said.
“McAllen is legal hell,” the cardiologist agreed. Doctors order unnecessary tests just to protect themselves, he said. Everyone thought the lawyers here were worse than elsewhere.
That explanation puzzled me. Several years ago, Texas passed a tough malpractice law that capped pain-and-suffering awards at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Didn’t lawsuits go down?
“Practically to zero,” the cardiologist admitted.
“Come on,” the general surgeon finally said. “We all know these arguments are bullshit. There is overutilization here, pure and simple.” Doctors, he said, were racking up charges with extra tests, services, and procedures."
rbar, note the comment, "Practically to zero"
Posted by: Peter | Jul 24, 2009 4:37:42 AM
Peter:
Doctors fear malpractice. It's real. Talk to them. It may be irrational, but they really fear malpractice. The statistics indicate that the risk of being sued is actually pretty high. Most of those lawsuits get dropped, 80% of the lawsuits that don't get dropped get settled in favor of the docs. However, they still fear lawsuits. They make decisions based on that -- irrational -- fear. That's what rbar is talking about, not about the cost of malpractice insurance, not about the costs of malpractice settlements, not about anything else. I'm not sure why that's so hard to understand (actually, I do not why it's so hard for you to understand -- confirmational bias).
Put a bunch of community docs together in a room and sooner or later the conversation turns to malpractice. I guarantee it. Put a bunch of VA docs in a room and the topic will never come up. The VA docs practice more efficient medicine. It's not a coincidence.
If I decide to order a test that is probably unlikely, the fear of malpractice is just one of the forces that is pushing me in that direction.
If your job involved what seemed like a fairly random chance of a lawsuit every time some course of action did not result in the desired outcome, you would change the way that you worked too.
Posted by: J Bean | Jul 24, 2009 6:50:40 AM
Don...Great Piece. Would suggest adding thought behind creation of "quality of care" database (that is reliable and standard) for Drs., Hospitals, etc. Agree with premise that structure should be to build incentives and tools for consumers to actually use fundamental consumer approaches.
Personal Responsibility (and Prevention) has to be a significant component (see $1 out of $5 Healthcare dollars on Diabetes 90% of which is largely treatable Type II). Studies show up to 80% of one's health is largely controlled by one - You. Additionally, up to 75% of claims studies show are paid out on preventable ailments. It is not the complete fix but it is a running start.
"You can not talk your way out of a problem (obesity, etc.) that you have behaved your way into. You must behave your way out."
Posted by: Jay | Jul 24, 2009 9:15:40 AM
J Bean writes:
> Doctors fear malpractice. It's real. Talk to them.
> It may be irrational, but they really fear
> malpractice.
It isn't irrational. Getting sued is a huge distraction for the docs individually -- they don't get paid for defending themselves, they get paid to take care of the patients that haven't sued them yet ;-) Their personal reputations are on the line each and every time, and that's the totality of a doctor's Stock in Trade: his reputation.
So, they spend other people's money to 1) reduce the chance they'll be sued at all, and 2) reduce the chance they'll be found liable if they are sued. At least the received wisdom is that so-called defensive medicine has these effects. Besides, the patients seem to prefer xrays to advice.
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Posted by: Tom Leith | Jul 24, 2009 9:17:31 AM
I have to laugh. In my experience, it's the (male) physicians who fear and resent educated proactive patients, women in particular, who access Medical Internet sites. More than lawsuits, even. I can quote . . . What a sea change.
Posted by: Oliver | Jul 24, 2009 9:21:35 AM
This is a fantastic point. Actually, they all are. But, unfortunately common sense is missing from much of the system. It can't be dictated, legislated or implied.
The best way to get people to take responsibility is through education campaigns. If people knew that surgery in most cases is not necessary or particularly effective in the long term, they might seek alternatives to address their back pain.
The information needs to be readily available -- don't depend on them searching for it -- and people must have some confidence about its credibility. Literature at doctor's offices, web campaigns and non-profit organization endorsements can help to begin educating people about their role in preserving their own good health.
Lawsuits aside, doctors can help by simply making these resources available prior to scheduling an MRI.
Posted by: Mika Lofton | Jul 24, 2009 9:24:00 AM
The Bullet-Proof solution to dealing with insurance and health care costs. (Without government Intervention)
It has been my experience on a few occasions that I find there are various prices for an individual who needs a 'service'. I'll start by defining service as any sort of care in which an insurance company will cover the costs, at least partially.
I have had times in my life where I did not have insurance and I needed auto work done, or one of my kids needed some sort of medication. After hearing that I had no insurance, I was offered alternatives. The auto repair costs were cut in 1/2 or even 1/3 because I was paying out of pocket. The same was true for medical attention. Once the service provider realized that there was no insurance company to take advantage of, the costs of the goods or services dramatically decreased but the quality of service remained the same.
Given this, I find that we can keep our Market economy strong if and only if the insurance companies start pushing back on the service providers. Here is my plan…
1) Get everyone on the same playing field. Insurers can offer rewards or incentives to individuals who can supply a bill of sales for services rendered that is dramatically below the norm.
2) Once the insurance companies have these bills, they can go back to the service provider and say "You're gouging the insurance companies. Cease and desist. We're going to pay you this reduced price from now on. etc…"
3) Insurance companies publish a list of the best service providers and the "gougers" (with costs associated with the services rendered). Let the service providers decide which list they want to be on.
4) Free market kicks in and the spirit of delivering the best quality for the cheapest price takes over.
The insurance companies already have the current costs they are paying. (They track everything). If they really wanted to play hardball w/ the service providers, they could save all of us a fortune. It's not complicated.
Posted by: -J | Jul 24, 2009 9:29:19 AM
Absurd, Absurd, Absurd. Good intentions but weak argument.
Does anyone believe that the vast majority of Americans who know nothing about the human body, health care, medical care, diagnosis, appropriate care would spend sufficient time to gain the confidence to speak with authority to their physicians? We are so lazy that we buy prepared foods and eat out so that we don't have to cook for ourselves. And we are going to teach ourselves medical care? Take the time to use all these tools? How many of us will do this? Enough to make a dent in the cost of care?
I'm not a physician but I have months of medical and disability training with the Social Security Administration, I worked for years in rehabilitation, and ran a managed care company for almost 10 years but I would not presume to question a physician on medical diagnosis unless it was clearly inane. When I fell off a tube recently and hit the water at 30 knots, I went to the ER and appreciated the care I received. I didn't question the CAT scan or Xrays. Thus, while I probably know vastly more medicine than most Americans (and vastly less than doctors), I did not question the doctor. Note to self: Stay off tubing at age 67.
Look, ignorance and lack of thought is going to kill health care reform. Instead of suggesting a "patient centered health care system", that has no chance of affecting medical costs until we can raise the next generation of Americans as junior doctors, consider a model that actually has a chance to bring medical costs under control universally. That is, a model that will work immediately in assuring appropriate care and reducing medical costs equally well everywhere in the U.S.
I am an advocate of lean medical care and a single payer, multiple insurer health care model to implement it. This is my admitted bias. But at least I have some realistic answers to the question of how can we quickly assure appropriate care and reduce medical costs nationwide.
Posted by: Peter Nesbitt | Jul 24, 2009 11:58:07 AM
Great post, Don! Spot-on.
Real health care "reform" is going to take profound cultural and institutional changes over a considerable amount of time. But I think your scenarios point in the likely direction.
Perhaps getting to the self-empowered patient or consumer of Health 2.0 requires a generational change. It'll be interesting to see how today's twenty-somethings who are running bare (ie., without health insurance) react to their circumstances. Perhaps being exposed to both physical and financial risk will nudge them toward greater health awareness, less risk-taking, more information seeking, and innovation about how they care for themselves and their friends. Their actions could be the vanguard for greater transformations to come.
Fortunately, there seem to be entrepreneurs and some physicians out there who are eager to offer them more robust informational resources and products for health monitoring that may one day be part of our mainstream health care infrastructure.
Posted by: David Collin | Jul 24, 2009 12:33:12 PM
I am using the Jones method and my Doctor is also doing the same. I am passing your remarks on to all in my mailing list and to the ones where I live which have received your booK "Healthwise for Life" all Staff and Ones living in Independent Living here in Westmister Oaks. All who have reported to me have said the book has been very helpful and easy to understand and follow the instructions.
Earline Clemins
Tallahassee FL
Posted by: Earline Clemins | Jul 24, 2009 1:46:54 PM
Not all people have access to the web nor are they medical savy or literate.
I am not sure you addressed this orif you did, I will glady rethink my comments?
Posted by: Bob Pyke Jr | Jul 24, 2009 5:36:37 PM
Tom and rbar, so if I'm to understand you, then even though tort reform is in place docs will continue to stay awake nights worrying about getting sued? Is this rational and does this attitude constitute good reason for contributing to the cost control failure of U.S. healthcare? And what's your solution to protecting patients from "malpractice" just so docs will not use irrational behavior? Would it be to give docs complete immunity for their actions, so that no matter what they did they could not be held accountable for their actions?
Posted by: Peter | Jul 25, 2009 5:19:54 AM
Peter - Would you like to be one honest mistake away from doing irreparable harm to your career and to the life of another human? That is a level of responsibility you will never be able to comprehend.
Posted by: Deron S. | Jul 25, 2009 3:54:18 PM
The original post is off the mark, and its clear that the person writing it does not understand the pathophysiology of heart disease. Perhaps you should stick to being a "businessman" and quit trying to practice medicine.
Rule #1 of cardiac pathophysiology: women dont show the same classic signs of angina-like chest pain that middle aged males do. Thats well documented in every single medical journal. You use your computer algorithm to tell people to stay at home and wait instead of getting a baseline EKG and a set of cardiac enzymes and you will lose many patients to heart attacks and get your ass sued off.
I'd love to see "Dr Don" build a website telling patients w/ chest pain to stay home if they meet parameters A, B, and C. His little website company would be sued out of existence very quickly.
Here's some more tips. The heartrate is a relatively unimportant indicator in the course of ruling out ischemic causes of chest pain vs non-ischemic. What resource are you using which suggests that a low HR sufficiently "rules out" ischemia?
As far as "calling your doctor" about your symptoms, how do you go about structuring that? Requiring that your doctor be on-call 24/7? Are you actually going to pay the doctor for this service? Of course the alternative is to use a nurse phone line. Do you really think a nurse is going to tell a patient with chest pain to stay home? Rule #1 of nurse triage--every single chest pain protocol advises them to go to the ER. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Because if they dont do that, the person supplying the nurse phone line is going to eventually run into a patient who had a true myocardial infarction who was told to stay home, and WHEN (not if) that happens, that one single multimillion dollar lawsuit will undo the "cost savings" of several thousand calls that saved trips to the ER.
Chest pain needs to be observed in an ER. You dont need a cardiac cath or an echo or any of that bullshit, all you need is a "simple" chest pain protocol which consists of 1) baseline EKG; 2) 3 sets of cardiac enzymes, including CK-MB and troponin I, spaced out over 8 hours each. The sensitivity/specificity/NPV/PPV of that protocol is on the order of 95%. Your "computer" protocol I dare say would have numbers in the 50-60% range.
"Dr" Don, maybe you should stick to business instead of medicine. You didnt go to med school, and no "expert panel" of physicians, even the most "patient centered" in the world, would EVER agree to support a computer home-based protocol for chest pain.
Posted by: joe blow | Jul 25, 2009 6:47:39 PM
"Peter - Would you like to be one honest mistake away from doing irreparable harm to your career and to the life of another human? That is a level of responsibility you will never be able to comprehend."
Deron, should engineers be insulated from errors/malpractice? How about pilots? How about tranport truck drivers? We are all "one honest mistake away from...". What counts is who pays for those mistakes. If a bridge collasped would you prefer to protect the design engineer/construction company from accountability, or would you prefer to see them lose a little sleep so that they are always aware of the job to be done and the consequences?
Posted by: Peter | Jul 26, 2009 4:45:10 AM
Joe, Dr Don's company is already doing everything you suggest. He's a real doctor and Healthwise's content is in most major health plans and many hospital systems. No sign of it being sued out of existence yet. http://www.healthwise.org/index.aspx
Posted by: Matthew Holt | Jul 27, 2009 12:53:52 AM
Studies have shown that women do not receive adequate screening for heart disease symptoms in the ER as compared to the screening and attention that men received. Don subtly gives a cue that Susan Smith's chest pain must not be serious because it occurred after an argument with her husband (i.e., reinforcing the old generalization that men have heart attacks and women are emotional creatures with various random symptoms). Joe Blow is right on the money in asserting that both women should be checked in the ER under basic protocols that do not cost a fortune (like MRIs and stress tests) but that do save lives.
Posted by: Pat D. | Aug 3, 2009 9:41:35 AM
This is the most ridiculous thing I've read. I actually manage a small primary care practice. Most unnecessary testing/treatment is actually caused by patients themselves.
And as far as the back pain example above, perhaps most back pain cases do resolve on their own in a few weeks. But if he just happened to be the one where there was a problem that the MRI would have detected, and it became worse because of the delay in diagnosis because the MRI wasnt ordered until later, well that doctor will be in a lawsuit before you can say, well, lawsuit. He will lose and wont be practicing medicine anymore.
Stop making up silly stories from Wonderland to show how you wish the world was.
Posted by: kidd | Aug 6, 2009 4:42:50 AM
YEs you are so right about this but there should be some check on doctors who unneccasarily recommend test and procedures. I would say if that is going to happen more and more people will switch to natural cures which is the buzz word now. Just see how this guy is propogating natural ways to cure dieases. This will soon be a reality
http://enaturecure.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Enaturecure | Aug 9, 2009 11:34:25 PM
Despite problems with the article, the bottom line is that there are people who don't want to think for themselves. I see this with my parent's generation. The doctor asks them if they're eating well and they say yes, when their diet consists of coffee and danish, mid morning coffee with friends, a cold-cut sandwich and coffee, an afternoon coffee break and a cup of decaf and icecream after spaghetti and meatballs. But they do take a Centrum Silver. Water is bad because it makes them "have to go", and exercise is bad, too, because they don't need to lose weight. No one is correcting them in the medical field or asking questions so as to get some real info.
Posted by: Debra | Aug 10, 2009 2:46:58 PM
Good thoughts. We need to revisit the Medicare prescription plan passed without any care to the cost. We need to revamp the medicare to be efficient. It is amazing that the House passed the 1000+ page bill for prescription drugs in one day, 3am, now no one can read a bill in one month.
I do like the ideas you gave. But one must remember that many people neither have a regular doctor, due to no insurance or do not have the Internet to look for symptoms.
Posted by: Liz | Aug 12, 2009 10:12:46 AM
universal health care would be a great idea, providing you can trust the implementer of the plan. I am almost sure this will be the Public Health Service. Here is a link that might shed a little light on the past preformance of the P.H.S.
www.tuskegee.edu/Global/Story.asp?s=1207586
now if you think this is a one time deal read this link.www.wanttoknow.info/050626mkultra
after reding about this , you could not pay me enough to go take a free flu shot. I think it has something to do with not trusting the government.
Posted by: quincy loven | Aug 12, 2009 6:46:37 PM
www.DYSmd.com is the future of helping the patient help themselves. With disease risk factor analysis, personalized medical abstract distribution, and lifestyle and cancer prevention guidelines, it truly enables the patient realize how to manage their health and prevent disease. People need to make the connection between the way they live their lives and the conditions they may develop later in life - the individual is the only one that can control that for themselves.
Posted by: Angela | Aug 19, 2009 9:22:16 AM
President Obama, we are tired of the Whitehouse trying to sell us health care reform. You know, I know and the American people know this is really about more government power and control. Our biggest problem has become our government! Stop! Just stop all this nonsense! Do not treat U.S. like we are stupid, ignorant morons! Join U.S.!
Do Not Sell Out “We the People” of the U.S.A.! We Trusted You!
President Obama, great Presidents do Great things! They have great Honor and Integrity! We know you can do it! “We the People” know the truth! We want to hear it from you! Please join U.S.! Tell the American people the Truth! Confess! Americans are forgiving! We feel if this took place, a renewed Spirit of Patriotism could spread through our government! The American people have never lost our Spirit of Patriotism! We never will! Join U.S.!
“Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder.” –George Washington
President Obama, You owe nothing to the manipulators who bought your way into office. Those people only used you! Americans do not want to use you. People have been using you and lying to you all your life.
You Have to Betray Them or Betray the U.S.A.! What’s Your Choice?
Look at the people of the United States. We are real! We are good people! We are intelligent and can think! The elitist mind is really small and weak! The elitist people are selfish and twisted. We just want a President with Honor and Integrity. This is your big chance to become the Greatest President of all time! You need to lead our government by example, with Honor and Integrity! President Obama just do the right thing!
Join “We the People” of the U.S.A.!
“Experience has shown that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” -Thomas Jefferson
President Obama:
Can you stand on your own?
Can you make your own decisions?
Can you be a man of Honor and Integrity?
If we have any other elected or appointed “public servant” leaders in our government who have any Honor or Integrity left inside them, they should come totally clean with “We the People”! If most of our leaders have any intestinal fortitude, then we should have a long line of them holding resignation papers in their hands or begging to ask our forgiveness! Do they no longer think they are accountable to U.S. and believe they can do whatever they please? They have developed a “spirit of insubordination” that has gotten way out of control! We no longer need employees working for us that practice malfeasance in office.
We need laws stating that any Representative, Senator or President that has the audacity to sign any bill without reading it and fully understanding it should go immediately to jail without any bond? We must raise the bar of Integrity and Honor for our employees! Elected or appointed “public servants” need to achieve a much higher standard. How did it get so low? If they are found guilty, a 30 year minimum sentences would not be out of line! This complete lack of responsibility is a very serious issue! It’s totally scandalous, outrages and just plain wrong! It’s Criminal!
We Must Never Again Allow Our Leaders to Have Unaccountable Trust! EVER!!!
People are corruptible! We must always question and watch very closely everything they do! Our Freedom, Our beloved Constitution, Our National Sovereignty, “We the People” and the fact that we are a Constitutional Republic is why the United States of America is the Greatest Nation in the World! Any bad truths about our Country are the slow results of the corruptible human nature of a few individuals! Power and wealth can corrupt a person if not kept in check! After we fix our current problems, and we will, we must put in play many more “checks and balances”. We must figure out a way to completely take away the opportunity of corruption! Nothing personal - but “We the People” must always come first and be protected!
http://www.tomdavidd.com/blog/
“We can all commiserate forever about how bad things have been, are, and will continue to be. But I don’t think that we can afford to wait for elections in order to have our say about putting a stop to this madness. Enough, already! Let’s start talking treason, prison, and death penalties for all malefactors in government who subvert, ignore, skirt and otherwise trash the Constitution of these United States of America. Those who have sworn to uphold the Constitution and have then ignored their oaths of office are guilty of perjury and malfeasance in office.” -Stephen A. Langford (personal communication to this author)
Posted by: Tom | Aug 20, 2009 1:51:50 AM
In the summer of 1985, I recall accompanying my grandmother to the doctor's office. My grandmother had complaints of mild chest discomfort, or at least that's how she described it then. I'm sure she meant periods of excruciating chest pain and sleepless nights. However, stoic as her generation was, even the thought of verbalizing physical symptoms felt like complaining. And complain they did not, no matter what.
So, doll in tow, unaware of the sombre occasion, I skipped happily as we made our way to the doctor. After a pretty long wait in a crowded waiting room, it was our turn. I entered the sanctuary (docs were respected too much back then :-) and was politely asked to sit on a wooden chair in the farthest corner of the room.
My grandmother practically whispered her symptoms to the doctor whose frown grew deeper by the second, and began his physical examination. He prescribed some medicines, assured her she was going to be just fine, live a long life too, and sent us on our way. As we made our exit, he whispered in my ear to me to get my mom to see him as soon as possible. As little as I was, I did not underestimate the gravity of his stern words.
My mother rushed to the doctor. She was told the sombre diagnosis. Grandmom needed more love, more attention and regular treatment. Long story short, my grandmother died in her early nineties, 20 years later. She took her medicines religiously, boasted of her good health to everybody she met, and lived a happy life not even remotely aware of her cardiac condition. Her devoted family took her side and contributed positively to her care and survival.
Alas, that world has passed so quickly much like my carefree childhood. I live in another time, another age, another reality where that scenario seems all too bizarre. Can ignorance really lead to bliss? Not anymore!
I consider myself fortunate to have had what many would consider the best academic and clinical preparation in the health care field. As a clinician, educator and administrator in a variety of different health care settings, I have seen things play out the way the big shots think they should. As a patient, I have experienced it and frankly, and sadly so, it has been different.
In today's world, knowledge is probably the one irreplaceable commodity that one needs in every aspect of life. The more, the better! Ignorance is disastrous! Ignorance kills!
Be smart. Be wise. We're going to learn together and help each other. You can make it work for you!
Posted by: Anita | Sep 1, 2009 7:30:14 AM
Mr Kemper,
I came upon this blog posted here just as I was preparing to post a blog for my own MS focused site about not being afraid to participate in your own healthcare decisions, being informed patients, and about really thinking about how you and your doctor manage your disease together. I am so glad to see your article, agree with it so wholeheartedly, that I have placed a link to it on my blog site...I hope that you won't mind.
Thank you for all you've said here, it is what all patients need to hear and what all doctors should be encouraging.
Jan.
http://walkwithabigstick.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Jan | Sep 23, 2009 12:37:04 AM
This is an important line of thought. I am a biological and medical specialist with a professional background. All you nicotine addicts and alcohol lovers, all those supper size me and fries with everything personalities, all those with no exercise and just diets. All those who are not prepared to listen to science, not prepared to take responsibility for your future health - you are costing everyone a fortune.
In Africa right now there are magnificent medical intervention programs with bug hearts and wonderful results for those that benefit - except for one thing, the standard recipient of care has absolutely no understanding of what they have received, but they are thankful!
So it is in America, Australia, Canada, Europe etc. A mind numbing level of basic incompetence. I believe in education, via the web, via an independent health body, and via local knowledge groups. I do not believe that monetary reorganization of pharmacare or hospitals will reap the same benefit.
I also think that giving credit to those that look after themselves is not gong to be difficult, just unpopular to the business of medicine. There are very few instances where cost savings could not be done, by the patient, if they were given incentives to do so. Not all incentives need nor should be monetary. I also think the psychology should be of benefits to those that help the system rather than fines and costs for those that do not understand or care.
OK so now the obvious has been discussed and is part of a much visited site, who or what is going to light a fire under this subject and 'make it so'?
Posted by: Rick Lambert | Oct 1, 2009 12:29:32 PM
I agree the need for each American to become accountable for their health should be at the forefront of the healthcare reform issues. Rather than worrying about who is going to pay for what, the big issues is being overlooked prevention of the diseases in the first place
Posted by: Cyndi | Oct 3, 2009 8:18:45 PM
We have some interesting Interviews with Dean Ornish, T. Colin Campbell and otheres on creating wellness on
http://www.chattykris.typepad.com/chatty-kris/
Thanks,
Kris
Posted by: Kris Costello | Oct 4, 2009 11:40:28 AM
Basic premise of increasing health literacy is one necessary foundation to decreasing medical costs. I would advocate more keeping it simple - when to go to the ER, when to make an appointment with your physician, and that for common colds, seeing a doctor won't help (and you'll catch a flu in the waiting room). So the right premise, but the article is way too optimistic about what average Joe can safely do at home.
Second point of caution is that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing... especially when you add a dose of wishful thinking. So, Mr. Smith says, look, I'm diabetic but controlled, some chest pain when I exercise but it's not that bad and always goes away, and no nausea or shortness of breath... maybe I don't need to come in, doesn't sound like a heart attack. Well, any doc would tell you that Mr. Smith still needs a stress test.
And then Mr. Smith thinks maybe it's heartburn... maybe I'll try this mail-order herb from Southeast Asia which will also increase my energy level and give me some weight loss. I see lots of websites saying it's good. And lots of e-mails as well. Now Mr. Smith is in a world of trouble.
Health literacy... not too much, but enough to judge things critically and still use the doctor for advice.
Posted by: jchou | Oct 19, 2009 5:16:33 PM


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